ugh no TMT leave questions unanswerd
I'm the second coment
Us Hawaiians a,ready have an ET… His name it Stich
We are mauna kea
Kū kia'i mauna
Do you have the money to disable the other
Dealing Scientific Astronomers printing my food VS. Natures. No thanks, I rather eat Natures foods such as: seafoods, water coconut.
I don’t think anyone is against the scientific benefits from the telescope, it’s the location. Just build it somewhere else. The mountain is sacred to Hawaiians and the government needs to respect that.
I think the protesters are looking at this from the wrong perspective. The Hawaiians from long ago were some the best on earth at their knowledge of the cosmos and would have been absolutely thrilled to have such an amazing device on their mountain to further their studies. The mountain is still sacred with a telescope on it.
Sounds reasonable to remove one for each new one they put up. Ancient Hawaiian navigators/astronomers would have been blown away at the chance to see distant planets
We wanna build a roof top swimming pool for the public on the white house would that be ok with the government ?lol ?
Stay off our Mauna
To be clear:According to National and International Law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this case for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands.
Maybe comprises by removing the 12 existing telescopes and build the 30 meter one??? Don’t need the others if the TMT one is superior! Or just simply build it somewhere else… I like that option instead!!!
Omg we don't need another telescope, go build it somewhere else??
Discovering new planets that we’ll probably never get to? Or allowing our world to thrive in respect.
Humanity comes from within. Not out there…..
Some information I think most people against TMT don’t actually know… it won’t be visible from the summit or lake Waiau or any burials. It will also be a mile away from the closest worship site and does not sit on a site where any traditional culture is practiced. Also they plan to decommission 5 of the 13 scopes at the summit and fully restore the land leaving only 9 amazingly useful telescopes. For everyone that thinks this scope will ruin there aquifer, it will be a closed loop system and any waste will be piped off the mountain and fully treated, leaving no pollution to water or mountain. Runs off of normal power grid with a normal A/C Not a nuclear reactor. A survey taken in 2018 had a 78% approval rate among locals. TMT is also going to use local workers and not outsource. With millions donated to local schools and the agreement to work with culture and pay a million in rent a year(other scopes have not had to pay any rent).There is enough space for culture and science to live in harmony on Mauna Kea.
why dont built in iraq or afghanistan theres a lot of high mountain there geesss
you find life light years away then what? we don’t have the technology to get there.
They’re gonna get sick staying up there for that long.
Billions of who's $$$$$$ to try to find ET? This is the ultimate welfare job. Spend the rest of your useless life trying to find something that is not there and cannot be there. If the astronomers want the telescope then they can pay for it. Get your head out of the clouds and put your feet on the earth.
Science should always trump superstition! Yes to TMT! Build it!
That’s like saying starving people want to eat food.
So when they don’t find anything, what’s next an 80 meter telescope? What are we giving up for all your wrong answers? They should have to disassemble all the out of date ones in order to build the next ones. Use the one foundation, electrical and plumbing and expand the foundation pad. Simple
talking to some of the kids, one said he wants to be an astronomer! he'll have a job there and then can bring his family and teach them.
An does it matter if there is never gonna get there meanwhile hunger an homeless
How many telescopes do they need smh, should take that billions of dollars and help the homeless in Hawaii or California etc
The protesters are trying to ruin this important project. Really sad to see local TV side with these law breakers, and not show the other side.
Move to the canary islands and take that canary Ige with you all.
The majority of Hawaii's citizens want it built. Don't let the minority protesters stop what we want. This is a democracy, do you protesters know what that is?
YOU WOULD THINK THAT WITH THAT MUCH MONEY YOU WOULD STUDY THINGS REALLY MATTER. FOR INSTANCE… LIKE HUNGER! HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS HAS A COUNTRY THAT THEY ARE FROM THAT IS SO BAD THAT "CHILDREN" ARE AND IS DYING FROM STARVATION. THAT IS A PROBLEM! NOT BEING ABLE TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE IS A CRYBABY EXCUSE. STUDY HUMANS NOT ALIENS. HERE'S A IDEA ON A SUBJECT THAT REALLY WILL BE A BRAIN DESTROYER!!!.. FINDING A WAY TO CURE STUPIDITY, IGNORANCE AND MOST OF ALLLLLLL…… GREED!!!! LEAVE THE ALIENS ALONE!! THEY NOT BOTHERING US.
# WASTE OF MONEY, MATERIALS, RESOURCES & TIME…….& CLUTTERS UP THE MOUNTAIN, & ULTIMATELY A FUTILE man made Science project. # JESUS CHRIST IS RETURNING TO EARTH …IN POWER, GREAT GLORY , & JUDGEMENT!!! *GOD WILL NOT ALLOW SINFUL mortal man To Live on Any Other Planet. # BETTER TO BE FOCUSED ON REPENTANCE OF YOUR SINS, & SURRENDER YOUR REBELLIOUS human nature TO THE ONE SOVEREIGN GOD OF THE UNIVERSE…BECAUSE HE IS RETURNING SOON IN JUDGEMENT!!!
How would you feel if someone tore your church down and built something on it? Science-discovery/destruction?
Polynesians found these islands by looking at the stars. Now your going to cry about a telescope that is tiny on a Giant mountain That can benefit the whole human race. Think bigger than that bible you got from the same people who took your land. Sorry
Look like Hawaii don’t like science ?
You can't live on other planets so get over it. they sound sooo stupid when they say we will go to other planets there are millions of people on Earth and we all can't fit in a stupid Space Ship that mountain has fresh water and they wanna destroy it with a nuclear telescope when they say we are running out of water scientist are the most stupid people on Earth. How much would it cost the world to go to space hmmm stupid scientist think they are so smart.
We are the majority! We want the TMT!
Reject science built on indigenous oppression
I bet you if they paid these PROTESTERS money they wouldn't be against the TMT. Most of them live at beaches and parks in vans and tents. Come on Ige! Pay these poor people!
These outsiders will never understand how we as polynesian people preserve things and places or ever understand why and how we keep the culture
WOW TMT SEEMS YOUR NOT WANTED HERE..TIME TO MOVE ON..??????☝✊☝✊
I don't need a telescope to see the stars & planets.. I can see the stars fine from where I live & sometimes those stars and planets seen closer. ** $UCH BULL $HIT COMING FROM FORK TONGUES $
How about build it in mount Zion
It could destroy life on earth. The holy grail of the world most active volcanoes is the sister mountain to mauna kea and ahe has been firing for quite a whike now. Why would you build something so big that needs to go down 30 stories possibly disturbing the water plate on a active hotspot. The ring of fire effects the entire pacific rim. Be smarter.
If Hawai'i never existed are these people telling me that there would be no other place on earth to build a telescope? Because it seems like people think that this is the only option. But in reality this is about respect and not about science. If they let TMT be built then there will never be any way to stop them from completely taking over all our islands. Our nation and land was illegally taken. It's our home and we dont want it there. The fact that people promote the abuse of stolen land, is despicable. They dont want to take down the ones that are decomissioned because of history. But what about OUR HISTORY? it's ok to destroy OUR history for the sake of theirs? That's insensitive to us as a whole and disingenuous to our respect to the land. Now look at O'ahu. It is completely unsustainable because of the same mentality of "oh what 1 more building gonna hurt", "what's another city gonna hurt"? Do you people not see what has happened. O'ahu is completely unsustainable. We rely on importation of good because all the farmland that was once use to keep our people sustained and self sufficient has been taken away for consumer commodities that in 200 years has taken away our power and ability to take care of ourselves. We dont want this happening to ALL of our land. And if this telescope is build then there is nothing stopping people from destroying it all. We kept our people sustained for 1000 years. And in only 200 years after western colonization we are now at a point that the 1 million people on O'ahu would die if importation stopped. If that's not a red flag then you are blinded by greedy multinational corporate conglomerates that are just using all of you. As humans it is our job to use the land and be sustainable. This system currently is not. Were arent just fighting a telescope, this is about the integrity of our entire home and land. Much bigger than a telescope. If you cant understand that then you have no culture and have no sustainability. If you had those things you would agree with what I'm saying. One day technology will be so good that you won't need specific places to put a telescope because you will be putting them in space. Wait till then and be patient. Stop railroading our culture for you impatience.
Looks like telescope is more important then humans…….fuck astronmerbitches ……polynesian pride
Cool…build it somewhere else! 13 telescopes on Mauna Kea is enough.
NO TRESPASSING ON HAWAIIANLAND KAPU
How stupid are you people of course get life outside earth why you think we Area 51
Its about Control, Lies, Money, and Greed, which all leads to HELL?
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